The LCMS is at a crossroads.

Pastoral shortages are increasing. Churches are declining. Many congregations are asking the same question:

What do we do now?

In this episode of the Red Letter Disciple podcast, Zach sits down with Matt Rossow, Kristie Webb, and Tyler Rohlfsen to share a real story from within the LCMS—one that offers both honesty and hope.

Good Shepherd in Fremont, Nebraska was facing long-term decline, aging membership, and difficulty calling a pastor. Instead of continuing down the same path, they made a bold decision:

They chose to merge with King of Kings.

This conversation explores:

• The reality of decline in LCMS congregations
• The challenges of calling pastors in today’s environment
• Why traditional solutions weren’t working
• The fears surrounding identity, control, and change
• How a merger became a mission strategy—not just survival
• The role of SMP and alternative pastoral formation pathways
• What happened when they chose faith over fear

If you’re part of the LCMS—pastor, leader, or member—this episode isn’t just a story.

It’s a case study.

And it raises an important question:
Are we willing to rethink how we do ministry for the sake of the Gospel?

   

Today’s episode is brought to you by Hodos. Hodos is a new non-profit designed to pave the way for the next generation of Lutherans. Designed for 18-29 year olds, Hodos is currently planning a national Young Adult Gathering for 2027. For interest, updated information, or donation options, please go to www.HodosWay.com.

Resources Mentioned

King of Kings Church → https://www.kingofkings.org

HODOS Movement → https://www.hodosway.com

Red Letter Challenge → https://www.redletterchallenge.com

Key insights from the episode

• Many LCMS churches are already experiencing long-term decline
• Pastoral shortages are no longer theoretical—they’re here
• Traditional call processes are becoming increasingly difficult
• Denial and resistance to change often delay necessary decisions
• Church mergers can be a faithful, mission-driven option
• SMP and alternative pathways are critical for future pastoral supply
• Healthy transitions require strong communication and trust
• Growth (both spiritual and numerical) is still possible in the LCMS
• Bold leadership decisions today shape the Church of tomorrow

Conversation Highlights

The “11–12 failed calls” reality facing one LCMS congregation

Watching youth and families slowly disappear over time

Why “just call another pastor” wasn’t a viable solution

The emotional weight of possibly closing a 70-year-old LCMS church

How merger became a serious option—not just a last resort

The exact vote that determined the future (2/3 majority)

The role of SMP in making this story possible

What happens when policy restrictions could prevent stories like this

The shift from ~50 people to 140–170 weekly attendance

A renewed focus on mission, community, and younger generations

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